Comments on: Beijing Mandarin Oriental Hotel Fire http://asia.elliottback.com/beijing-mandarin-oriental-hotel-fire/ China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:53:24 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: kitchenelixir http://asia.elliottback.com/beijing-mandarin-oriental-hotel-fire/#comment-400537 kitchenelixir Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:26:41 +0000 http://asia.elliottback.com/?p=409#comment-400537 what a waste, all the $600,000,000.00 turned into ashes. what a waste, all the $600,000,000.00 turned into ashes.

]]> By: UK Structural Engineer http://asia.elliottback.com/beijing-mandarin-oriental-hotel-fire/#comment-398974 UK Structural Engineer Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:41:23 +0000 http://asia.elliottback.com/?p=409#comment-398974 Comparisons with 9/11 are not necessarily valid. The structural design and mode of structural fireproofing would have been radically different (WTC was designed in the 1960's), and the combination of circumstances at WTC were unique. But the conspiracy theorists are superficially convincing, until you start applying common sense. I hear that the book sales are doing really well... Comparisons with 9/11 are not necessarily valid. The structural design and mode of structural fireproofing would have been radically different (WTC was designed in the 1960’s), and the combination of circumstances at WTC were unique.

But the conspiracy theorists are superficially convincing, until you start applying common sense. I hear that the book sales are doing really well…

]]> By: AM/WF http://asia.elliottback.com/beijing-mandarin-oriental-hotel-fire/#comment-398783 AM/WF Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:18:06 +0000 http://asia.elliottback.com/?p=409#comment-398783 wow aerd that is interesting at it being a cover up. any word on that? wow aerd that is interesting at it being a cover up. any word on that?

]]> By: Liza http://asia.elliottback.com/beijing-mandarin-oriental-hotel-fire/#comment-398251 Liza Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:46:52 +0000 http://asia.elliottback.com/?p=409#comment-398251 Is anyone hurt? Is anyone hurt?

]]> By: Stephen Wilson http://asia.elliottback.com/beijing-mandarin-oriental-hotel-fire/#comment-395490 Stephen Wilson Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:20:05 +0000 http://asia.elliottback.com/?p=409#comment-395490 Jet fuel burns at 1200 degrees F. Office fires burn at 1200 to 1800..... jet fuel will help start a fire....but it will not "accelerate" it to a point to more intensly damage a steel frame building. If you want to know the truth about the physics and engineering of the 3 WTC buildings go here: <a href="http://www.ae911truth.org" rel="nofollow">www.ae911truth.org</a> Jet fuel burns at 1200 degrees F. Office fires burn at 1200 to 1800….. jet fuel will help start a fire….but it will not “accelerate” it to a point to more intensly damage a steel frame building. If you want to know the truth about the physics and engineering of the 3 WTC buildings go here: http://www.ae911truth.org

]]> By: Stephen Wilson http://asia.elliottback.com/beijing-mandarin-oriental-hotel-fire/#comment-395446 Stephen Wilson Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:17:09 +0000 http://asia.elliottback.com/?p=409#comment-395446 Who are you??? How could you (or anybody) know if the building has to be torn down yet??? smells fishy to me.... just like on 9/11 when people seemed to know exactly what happened hours after it happened..... no... sorry, things like this take time to investigate and form a conclusion. The building did not collapse, and it had larger fires than WTC 7 on 9/11...... <a href="http://www.ae911truth.org" rel="nofollow">www.ae911truth.org</a>..... Who are you??? How could you (or anybody) know if the building has to be torn down yet??? smells fishy to me…. just like on 9/11 when people seemed to know exactly what happened hours after it happened….. no… sorry, things like this take time to investigate and form a conclusion. The building did not collapse, and it had larger fires than WTC 7 on 9/11…… http://www.ae911truth.org…..

]]> By: Marc http://asia.elliottback.com/beijing-mandarin-oriental-hotel-fire/#comment-392963 Marc Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:48:07 +0000 http://asia.elliottback.com/?p=409#comment-392963 The 600.000.000 dollar was the entire comple, or only the CCTV main building.<br><br>This hotel alone certainly did not cost that much.<br>It isn't any spectacular from structural point of view. Nor is it really big on nowadays' scale.<br><br>If they tear it down or only strip-and-refit it is the question to be answered the coming time.<br><br>Anyway, Chinese authoroties don't want to know about this disaster, it seems. The 600.000.000 dollar was the entire comple, or only the CCTV main building.

This hotel alone certainly did not cost that much.
It isn't any spectacular from structural point of view. Nor is it really big on nowadays' scale.

If they tear it down or only strip-and-refit it is the question to be answered the coming time.

Anyway, Chinese authoroties don't want to know about this disaster, it seems.

]]> By: Morgan http://asia.elliottback.com/beijing-mandarin-oriental-hotel-fire/#comment-392103 Morgan Mon, 16 Feb 2009 01:31:12 +0000 http://asia.elliottback.com/?p=409#comment-392103 It sucks because the construction cost more than $600,000,000.00 now the entire structure has to be torn down. It was planned to be one of the most luxurious hotels in the world. It sucks because the construction cost more than $600,000,000.00 now the entire structure has to be torn down. It was planned to be one of the most luxurious hotels in the world.

]]> By: Marc http://asia.elliottback.com/beijing-mandarin-oriental-hotel-fire/#comment-391768 Marc Sun, 15 Feb 2009 12:51:22 +0000 http://asia.elliottback.com/?p=409#comment-391768 I am in Beijing at the moment and saw the building at daytime yesterday (Saturday 14 Feb).<br>The facades on East, South and West are severely touched by the fire, from top to bottom. The North facade is largely untouched.<br>Most fire from inside seems to have been located on the South side, the topmost quarter of the building.<br>At the corners, you can see through the building at some locations, where the ouside cladding is reaaly gone (burned or molten).<br><br>From the North gate of the building site (the closed I could get to the building), it seems it is strong enough to stay standing.<br>Damage to the main structure will be limited, esp. at the lower 3/4 part. I am in Beijing at the moment and saw the building at daytime yesterday (Saturday 14 Feb).
The facades on East, South and West are severely touched by the fire, from top to bottom. The North facade is largely untouched.
Most fire from inside seems to have been located on the South side, the topmost quarter of the building.
At the corners, you can see through the building at some locations, where the ouside cladding is reaaly gone (burned or molten).

From the North gate of the building site (the closed I could get to the building), it seems it is strong enough to stay standing.
Damage to the main structure will be limited, esp. at the lower 3/4 part.

]]> By: alfonsobergamoo http://asia.elliottback.com/beijing-mandarin-oriental-hotel-fire/#comment-389804 alfonsobergamoo Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:01:27 +0000 http://asia.elliottback.com/?p=409#comment-389804 I don't understand why have have not identified beforehand that it is not a good thing to do. I don't understand why have have not identified beforehand that it is not a good thing to do.

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