China & Japan: Still at War
Enraged over Japan’s bid to join the UN security council and a new textbook approved in Japan that minimizes atrocities comitted during the second world war, Chinese people took to the streets of Beijing to call “Japanese pig, come out” in front of the Ambassador’s residence. As many as 10,000 students took place in the mostly peaceful demonstration under police guard. Said Cheng Lei,
“Japan doesn’t face up to its history. We want to express our feelings so the Japanese government knows what we think.”
Updates:
Some other Asian blogs are covering this, notably Danwei and Simon World!
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on April 12th, 2005 at 5:28 pm
Dont you think China’s is way hypocritical on there statements towards the Japanese? I mean, didnt they invade and occupy tibet and vietnam by force in the 40s and 70s?? Also, I thought China, reconciled there grevences with Japan in the 70s when they established economic ties? If they dont recongnized that, what happened to the money and aid that Japan has been giving them for so many years? Also, should japan as a democratic country have the right to publish whatever they want?? Its considered free speech right? If someone thinks its wrong, they will write the oppositions views in other books. its not like they are limited to only one resource of information for the knowlege of the “incident” that happened during WWII. This is the greatness of a free society, unlike china who will controll the press and the information and community to get what they want.
on April 13th, 2005 at 4:15 am
As a Chinese, I can’t accept this way of “free to publish anything they want”.
A government is in charge of not only protecting the demostic right of publishing but also balancing diplomatic scale with the international, and for this aspect of view, Japan Government really need to control the publications relating invasion history.
China did invade tibet and vietnam, and we Chinese felt sorry to those who have been killed. But, it doesn’t mean that Japan is right of saying “It was not that bad..” or “It was not like that..”
on April 13th, 2005 at 4:20 am
Both of you should go look up the term “marketplace of ideas,” upon which your squables should be resolved. Free speech means diversity of thought on a topic, which means contrasting theories, which means eventual truth by comparison. Having a marketplace of ideas is a good thing, and neither China nor Japan do it completely right. China censors, Japan rewrites history. In fact, even the US nudges its news and media!
So, we’ll never realize that ideal… which is quite sad.
on April 14th, 2005 at 12:38 pm
It is not like history is something to be trifled with.
History is fact. Facts cannot be changed at will, not even while calling upon the right of free speech. Damn that, it is no fiction book!
I can publish a book picturing Adolf Hitler as Jesus Christ, claim that it’s real and lure thousands of people into a trap of stupidity. Never mind that, I got the right to publish this book.
But I can’t publish a ‘historic’ account of the Acts of the Apostles of Adolf Messiah. There is no such thing, so there is nothing to write in such book, but tainted reality.
The Japanese are actively trying to cheat history. Of course, “history is decided by the victor”, but I recollect some images of burning cities and a wailing Japanese surrender. I also recollect thousands upon thousands of slave workers and “comfort girls”. Damn them Japs, if they deny their guilt in these affairs.
It is not relevant here whether or not China admits their crimes, because they have not been committed against Japanese citizens. Of course it is bad, and of course China must one day apologise for THEIR wrongdoings, but this is the time for Japan.
Let the “Rising Sun” take a “Long March” westwards, and kneel to apologise to China.
on April 16th, 2005 at 1:15 am
History is fact which often bent by political or economical benefits of each country. My view of current anti-japanese demostration happening in China is basically controlled by chinese government to avoid public frustration supposed to aim at Chinese government. In history, both China and Japan colonized other countires. To my understanding, although Japanese government is trying rewrite history, they have apologized for war time incidents to china many time which most likely majority of Chinese public are not even aware of because of governmental control over media! It is ridiculous to see this anti-Japanaese demostration in China happening recently. It is only to show that how China is failing to be a leader of Asia.
on April 21st, 2005 at 10:17 am
As tensions heat up between two of the most powerful Asian nations, with neither willing to ‘lose face’ by appearing to back down, has Japan just irreversably upped the ante?
In a move certain to further infuriate China, Japan appears to be willing to officially honour those who committed what China believes were ‘wartime atrocities’.
I’ve been following, with some concern, the unfolding of that story at http://www.survivalistskills.com/NEWS35.HTM
There’s also a fascinating page of current news articles the rise of China, the collapsing dollar, the declining U.S. economy, and the New World Order, at http://www.survivalistskills.com/newsitem.htm, which I’ve been checking daily!
on January 28th, 2006 at 5:18 am
While Chinese, Koreans and Japanese as individuals often display much wisdom which are similar, such as noble sacrifice for the greater good, and frown on ‘western’ values such as competition and conflict, as nations their values are at best contradictory, and at worst plain stupidity. War is war, bad things do happen, and it is not the responsibility nor the business of those who did not have the courage to stand up and protect their nation to prolong the hate nor do they have the right to proclaim patroitism in the face of their cowardly behavior.
This was a war where justice resided on both war fronts, the Chinese humiliated Japan when it was at its weakest, the Japanese humiliated the Chinese when they were at their weakest, it IS as simple as that. There were no ideals, nothing involved, all that was accomplished was unending hate through the centuries. Had the Chinese not called the Japanese ghosts and dwarfs before? Had the Japanese not called the Chinese the “sick men of Asia”? None of them have the moral right to claim that they were right or so and so is changing history, because whether or not they killed us, doesnt change the fact that we killed them too.
I was speaking to a very patriotic Chinese that day, about differences between Japanese and Chinese. His instant response was one of disgust and despise at that Japanese. He said that the Chinese built the first spacecraft, i replied that the Japanese were the first asians to build the aircraft carrier too. And to that he replied that during the Yuan Dynasty, the Chinese under mongolian rule were in fact able to attack and defeat Japan, if not for a hurricane. Though i doubt that the Japanese would have been so easily defeated, I chose to listen and asked “so what”. He said that if that had happened the Japanese would be under Chinese rule. I was totally taken aback, why then are they complaining that Japan attacked them. Both these people just have to give up their imperialistic ambitions and start to learn to live in peace, only then will they become a population of good and admirable people, just like the Germans.
on August 4th, 2006 at 12:29 am
well, you should certainly read about the nanjing massacre then.
the only reason that the US is not sore at the japs for the pearl harbor incident is coz of the info that US gained as a result of the UNIT 731 etc research in China. think about it.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
on August 11th, 2006 at 3:19 pm
Pearl Harbor gave birth to our glorius Military Industrial Complex, or war capital.
I hear people saying “History is fact!, History is fact!” since when is history fact? History as it is initially recorded is often flawed. It often forgets to mention any attrocities the occured by the winner. It’s not untill this history is rexamined later that we can come to any real conclusion. Then theres whitewashing of history. But lets not say history is fact, untill you actually have ALL the facts, an in an unbiased light.